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 Post subject: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MATS
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:38 pm 
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Dear all

I am hoping someone that owns a Milsig can give me some advice.

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I recently bought a used MKII.
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The Side air system was missing when I received it, but after a discussion with the seller he eventually found it in his toolbox.
Anyways, I have attached the side air system and tested it to be working just fine.

I KNOW that the marker is supposed to have a stock (HST-005) that has an adapter to allow a disposable 90g Co2 bottle to attach to the back of the marker with an adapter (Circled in red)
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Unfortunately, I seem to have the Canadian variant of the marker which has the CATS stock (HST-004) that has an ASA on the bottom allowing a remote line to the stock and it does NOT have the adapter.
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This screws into the back of the "butt plate" that connects to the "Side air system" (Green)
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In later years, you were able to purchase an "upgrade" MATS that allowed you change the 90gr for a 13ci
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In my opinion, it looks like they just changed the stock for a slightly bigger one without making any changes to the rest of the air
system; so either you removed the adapter and screwed the 13CI directly into the back of the marker OR it screwed into the adapter?
This image (and a few others) seems to suggest the former.
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However, looking at other images it seems there are some of the MATS systems that "offset" the 13ci downward a little bit.
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Strangely, it looks like the MK3's are straight (Using the MATS for HEAT Core) and the MK2's seem to be offset.

This afternoon I removed the stock from the marker, leaving the "butt plate" and "side air system" in place and screwed an HPA tank directly into the back of the marker with NO adapter needed.
Of course, there was no "offset" at all...

The guys at Milsig are recommending that I upgrade the MKII's internals with a HEAT core and THEN buy a MATS for HEAT core.
http://www.milsig.eu/products/17531.html -> 149.95 EUR
http://www.milsig.eu/products/17167.html -> 44.95 EUR

Now, my question is very simple: Can anyone give me some definitive advice?
Do I really have to get the HEAT Core and associated MATS just so that I can stick the 13ci cylinder into the stock or is there another way that does not involve as may EURos?

I really appreciate any advice.

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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:21 pm 
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Welcome snarf!

I cannot give any specific answers to your setup, as I gave up on them a while back, however, Slick has owned just about every MilSig ever produced and he can answer your questions, no doubt.

Just have some patience and he'll get you squared away.

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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:52 pm 
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You should be able to use the 13ci butt stock for your current setup. Your HPA tank should screw on to the back of your marker without having to use any adapters. The adapters are only used for disposable Co2 cartridges.

I have not used a HEAT core yet but talking to people who have one they love it and recommend it. You will get more shots out of your HPA tank using a HEAT as it operates at a lower pressure. With your current setup and a 13ci tank you will get approxametaly 120 shots out of a full fill.

Milsig is phasing out there old "technology" so old parts are getting harder and harder to come by. Eventually when your parts start wearing out and need to get replaced you will have to convert to the HEAT core.

Hopefully I answered your questions. If you got any other questions feel free to ask.

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Welcome to the Empire SnaRf :mgun:

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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:50 pm 
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Thanks Guys.

PS: This is my second account.
Not sure what happened to the my first one...

On the bright side, if I buy the MATS and the 13ci now, I can always upgrade to the HEAT core later...


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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Yep, so your not out any money!!

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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:54 am 
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Thx for the review, some light appear for my milsig issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Milsig K-Seris MKII some advice needed with regard to MA
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:29 am 
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So, a quick update.

The MATS stock + 13ci HPA works perfectly on the MK2 without the HEAT core upgrade.

Will post pics when I have a chance to catch my breath again....


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Thx for the review, some light appear for my milsig issues.













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